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It is the "personal parallels" I'm concerned with in my challenge, Feste. Oxfordians find many more of them between their man's life and the Shakespearean plays than Marlowe scholars find between their man's life and his plays.
Right. There are fewer personal parallels to be found in Marlowe's known works.
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Why?
http://www.shakespearefellowship.org/ubb...=true#Post47982
Even Marlovians look to the Shakespearean canon for evidence of Marlowe parallels. And the aspect of the author's exile could be seen to support their thesis. The author of Shakespeare's works was riding very high, and then fell like Phaeton. Once he was the Knight of the Tree of the Sun, the one who would 'pass all of them shortly were it not for his fickle head.'
Yet that fickle head is the mercurial wit of Shakespeare, 'exiled' from his lofty position in the corridors of power to a kingdom 'among the meaner sort,' the theatre.
You have written elsewhere that you find Hamlet to be 'a parasite' and 'a creep,' and that you prefer Stoppard's rendering of Rosencrantz and Guildenstern. I think you also must also prefer Stoppard's Shakespeare. He is, admittedly, much easier to handle. It is easier, by far, to contemplate his *problems* entirely enclosed within the walls of a theatrical company and his provincial home in Stratford. The real Shakespeare came to the theatre as a court of last resort, the one place where he could free what modernists like to call his 'demons.'
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And if there are few or no such parallels between Marlowe's life and his plays, why should we expect them between Shakespeare of Stratford's life and the Shakespearean plays,
Whatever our expectations are or should be, they aren't there. A few references are made to him by the author. In no way does he embody the life's blood of the work.
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if we accept for the sake of argument that he wrote them?
--Bob G.
Since it is de Vere's life in those parallels, how does one accept that, why argue for argument's sake?
Jonson tells you those parallels are there:
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Looke how the fathers face
Lives in his issue, even so, the race
Of Shakespeares minde, and manners brightly shines
In his well toned, and true-filed lines :
In each of which, he seemes to shake a Lance,
As brandish't at the eyes of Ignorance.
When he says father's face, he cannot mean this picture:
http://hollowaypages.com/images/DROES.JPG
Since he has already said:
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Reader, looke
Not on his Picture, but his Booke.
See attachment for the face Jonson means.
KC
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Edited by Katharine (06/30/08 01:02 PM)
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